Finally Awake this sounds so much like what happened to my husband and I ! You are so right ,it is a great feeling when you know they no longer have power over you and it is driving them crazy . Kind of a satisfying guiltless pleasure .
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The Elders "want to meet with us"
by finally awake injust ron and i were sitting outside on our porch, enjoying the beautiful late afternoon weather when our middle son came outside with the phone.
it was brother lazy slacker calling.
just ron took the phone before he knew who was calling.
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A thread for those who have no support system or a place to go due to shunning.
by ohiocowboy inreading the recent thread about the young lady who just ended her life got me thinking that maybe there could be a thread that is easily accessible to anyone who may need help due to homelessness from losing their families and friends to shunning.
too often i hear stories about people who have lost everything, and have no where to go, and at the same time having no type of support system.
unfortunately there are some who are so lost that they feel that there are no options besides taking their own life.. i think that a website that matches people in need to others who can help in some way would be a great idea.
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You have a good heart Ohiocowboy .
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Br. Jackson Illustration: "Run, Idiot, Run!"
by respectful_observer ini'm not sure if this has already been posted and i just haven't seen it, but here's an email i received recently that gave me a chuckle.... ...................... run, idiot, run.
br.
jackson of the governing body concluding a talk @ la district convention had this neat illustration at the very end of the convention.
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" We are at the one inch line ..and some are stopping and looking around and wondering where we are in the stream of time.
RUN!!! IDIOT!!! RUN!!! Don't look at the time...just run...run...we're almost there."
Yeah right .... The reason that the player may be standing looking around is because he has been playing this 'f...ng' game for fifty yrs. ,and has just now realized life has passed him /her by in the mean time . The GB still screaming at the masses to NOT think about it just keep busy ,busy, busy, doing the meaningless tasks we tell you to do .
I agree with what Mrs.Jones just wrote :
"We're the event that the universe is watching."
Delusions of grandeur, the universe is completely indifferent.
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I wrote a D.A. letter
by snakeface ini used to be very active int he organization, "high profile" so to speak.
always taking the gorup out in service, always having parts on the platform etc etc.
almost 5 years ago, i simply did not show up anymore.
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Snakeface , We did a similar fade as you . One day I just woke up and told my husband I am done, and quit going to meetings . We had one stop by to see where we had been, and then nothing for about four yrs . We had been active regular publishers for 32 yrs ! WOW one visit (underwhelmed) .
After I put up 'Winter' decorations on my porch they all of the sudden took interest in us again ,relentless interest , ... I wrote a letter like yours and filed one with the local Police station stating I wanted no further contact ....I too said, "I have been inactive over four yrs ,and no one cared ,so let's just keep it that way " .
Hope your letter will be enough to have them leave you alone .Enjoy Life !
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....and a new wrinkle
by outsmartthesystem inso i was giving my daughter a hug at bed time last night.
she stands up at the foot of her bed and wraps her arms around my neck.
she then asks why i don't serve jehovah anymore.
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I agree with many of the comments so far . Reassure your daughter . Let her know you love her and will always want only the best for her . (Do not lie to her ...if you don't worship Jehovah don't say you do )
It is time to confront your wife . Indoctrinating your daughter against you is wrong and you should not tolerate it in your home .
I grew up in a 'divided ' household and from a very young age was told that one day my Father ,and unbelieving Grandparents may one day try to take me from my Mother ,and it was important for me to remain loyal to Jehovah on my own . This was when I was 5-6 yrs old ....this seriously stresses out a child and it should be a CRIME . It is emotionally abusive to thrust Armageddon fears upon young childrens minds .It caused me to never trust my Father or to be totally honest with him . This was a shame because it was all based on my Mom's imagined persecution possibility all based on Watchtower CRAPOLA ! It has only been in the last few years that I am actually having honest heart to heart conversations with my Dad ....he is 83 . Don't let this happen to you . You CAN prevent this outcome .
You need to have a serious talk with your wife . Stand up for your daughters well being ,mentally and emotionaly.Tell her what is acceptable ,child appropriate teaching and what is NOT .
What kind of life do you want for your children ?? It is up to you to provide it ,do not make the mistake of sitting back and letting your wife make all the decisions of the childs up-bringing . You are the Father and YOU have a big say in this you know .
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Annual family reunion
by troubled mind inevery july my husbands mothers side of the family has a reunion .
this year his sister and brother in law attended from across the country ,she has only been back maybe three times in thirty years !
this is the first time we have met her new husband .
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Every July my husbands Mothers side of the family has a reunion . This year his sister and brother in law attended from across the country ,she has only been back maybe three times in thirty years ! This is the first time we have met her new husband . My Mother in law and Father in law (husbands step father ) are active JW's ,he is an Elder . Since our fade we only see them once a year at this time . They have never officially said they are shunning us ,but we no longer get phone calls the rest of the year.
At this same time my husbands Father and step Mother were also visiting ,neither of them are JW .
His sister kept making the comment how much Happier,relaxed her brother ,my husband ,now appears .
She asks, " Is it because he is out of that religion now ?"' Then his step Mother said the very same thing ! They even asked him directly .
This makes me smile because for so long he has teased me that I am the 'evil' influence that has steered him away from the Witnesses .But deep down I know he is grateful . He has not done the research that I have, and has not proven to himself that the real truth is the JW religion is a cult .He stopped attending because I did ,but he also was offended by how unloving and hypocritical the congregation truly was . Now he is being confronted by the fact that everyone around him recognizes he is so much happier ,and I think it really made him stop and think about how much better he does now feel being away from the control of the Watchtower society .
When his parents come to visit it is so confusing though . They act as if nothing has changed . They arrange for their younger DF'd son and his family to come up and see them . They come to our house and arrange outings to be with us and his other brother that has faded . The only sanction they have made is that we call before we stop over while they are here ,because we can not be there the same time the other Witness part of the family is visiting . They stay at 'worldly ' relatives house ,who have no idea of the sanctions .In fact it was brought up in front of their daughter and she was shocked to hear it . They think it is us being aloof .
I am glad they are not acting as other Witness families do ...but it does make it confusing not knowing where we stand . I don't know if I should try harder at keeping communications open the rest of the year or just be grateful for what we get ?
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Motorcylces
by harleybear inokay i thought it would be fun to find out who of you all ride bikes and i don't mean bicycles.
we have 2 harley road kings.
what do you ride??
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Do you think this message would tempt me back to the loving arms of the cong?
by HappyOutsideTheBox ina 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman.
the police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.. as it was the convention and his uber zealous, hypocritical mother- aka my sister, was going to be absent from home i called to see how he was doing.
in the course of the conversation i referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised about him being mr grey).
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ummm .....now on to a much more serious topic for us readers of "Fifty Shades " , Do you have pictures of your nephew and do you care to share them ??
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Do you think this message would tempt me back to the loving arms of the cong?
by HappyOutsideTheBox ina 25 year old relative of mine was being stalked last week by an older woman.
the police were involved and the perpetrator arrested.. as it was the convention and his uber zealous, hypocritical mother- aka my sister, was going to be absent from home i called to see how he was doing.
in the course of the conversation i referred to 50 shades of grey' (the stalker had fantasised about him being mr grey).
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Just text her...... "Laters ,Babe"
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Did you pick-up many people for the meetings??
by karter ini was a regular taxi for alot of people.. we (wife & family) pick up one sister and her 2 children for many years ...he husband had walked out on her and we did'nt mind.. however when we were asked by the cobe wife to pick up and elderly and infermed bro a 3 day assembly (we had 3 young children) i said no.. we pased her and her daughter traviling alone to the assembly.. .
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My Mom was asked for years to give others rides to the hall . My Dad was not a witness and always gave her crap for driving to Assemblies and out in service ,the Elders knew this ye always asked her anyways . She also had four children of her own to transport ! We had a station wagon and I remember sitting in the far back with no seat belts for years as she picked up another woman with three kids ! Sometimes she would drop us at the hall and then make an extra trip to pick this woman up if all her kids were coming ! I mean my Mom always put out the extra effort .
When i was older she gave this scary old woman rides ,she freaked my Mom out . She complained to the Elders that she thought htis woman was demonized and finally refused giving her rides .
Over the years she transported many single Moms to conventions and meetings . As I got older I started noticing the Elders NEVER extended themselves to this 'privilege'.
When I left home ,and my Mom became Elderly ,she had a hard time finding people to give her lifts to the hall even though it was literaly only a few minutes from her home ! I am talking just up the hill from her house . I lived 25 minutes away and my Brother lived about the same distance in the opposite direction yet the loving shepards told us it was OUR responsibility to see she got to the meetings and assemblies . Assholes.
My Dad would even drive her there as long as someone would bring her home ,and that was at times a challenge . This is something he throws in their faces now whenever they stop by, because he knew how many she helped out over the years . Once she became house bound it made him sick how little they came by to check on her .
OKAY LETS RIDE ..... !986 Goldwing